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Greetings,

I am requesting a promotion to Super Moderator for NES Metroid Category Extensions
The previous Super Moderator deactivated his account and there is no current super mod.
https://www.speedrun.com/metroid_category_extensions

Thank you!

I'll send Joe a message and see what we can do. YSIII hype!

I did some Mesen frame counts vs the NES and it seems fine as far as I can tell. Will add it.

I've used BizHawk extensively and it uses the correct frame rate. unlike FCEU. NEStopia is solid too.

I've accepted some Mesen runs on this board, but none of them were "competitive". I'm not opposed to adding Mesen to the list of EMU in the rules if everything checks out, I just haven't gotten a chance to explore it.

I'm not saying the FC version should be in a different category because nobody plays it. I'm saying the FC version should be a different category because it tallies the hearts at the end of the level faster and creates an uneven playing field--especially for whip only and low%. If runners prefer the FC version and it overtakes NES U, that's perfectly ok!

Another alternative: we could work on an accurate conversion rate to account for any hearts for levels 1-5 if someone really really wants to run FC whip only or low% and have their times on the NES U leaderboard. Shouldn't be too difficult to find the frame differences in a few bizhawk tests.

I don't think the leaderboard would be too bloated if we just add misc. categories for different versions of the game. I'd like to get input from truefalse before making any changes, of course.

An overwhelming majority of the runs and all of the competitive runs for any% and whip only have been on the same US NES version for awhile now, and I don't see the need for a meta shift to the Japanese 93 reissue, FDS, AC, etc.

I'd definitely like to keep the category bloat at bay, but I don't want to have an uneven playing field either. In my opinion the current rules are doing a pretty good job at this, but if there are 50FPS PAL runs on the main board, it might be wise to split those out so they are on their own level playing field.

My two cents:

The FC reissue is banned because the tallies at the end of the level are faster. The FC version would give an unfair advantage to all the runs on the current leaderboard.

I'd be happy to add a separate category for the FC reissue, but FC and NES (U) on the same category isn't really a fair comparison, especially for whip only which has mandatory heart counts.

I'd be curious to hear more opinions from the community.

I just tried password Ktj-tO Pf0m03 l-yqHG 00y016 which is supposed to be 20 hours, 59 minutes and 48 seconds and got the 5-10 front facing "wave" ending instead of > 10. It also had strange drops from the monsters in tourian.

Silver label, 3 screws REV-A.

I wonder if the reissue with different artwork has the other ending?

edit: here's a link to the password generator if it is useful to you https:/​/​www.​truepeacein.​space/​

By "overclocked", I mean the anniversary collection doesn't lag. I'm not sure about the frame rate it runs at, though.

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I don't understand the interest in the Famicom reissue. The leaderboard is built around the North America NES release. Since the Famicom version grants an advantage, the default rom will change to the '93 reissue which is a massive shift. Allowing the Famicom release on the any% board gives all future runners a slight advantage over the existing times with heart countdowns, not to mention most people who play on hardware are going to have to switch from authentic cartridges to powerpaks with the Famicom rom.

All these factors together strike me as problematic.

These are just my opinions. I haven't heard from truefalse or the Castlevania supermods. There is no final decision, etc.

Here are a few of my thoughts on the matter.

I haven't seen any PC submissions yet. Doesn't look like there's much interest in running the anniversary collection.

In general, I'd argue that emulator is still the most accessible version.

With the anniversary collection running an overclocked PRG0 version, I'm more in favor of removing it from the platforms instead of allowing Famicom reissue submissions for any%. In the off chance a new player purchases the anniversary collection and wants to run the game, there's always PRG0 (unfortunately) or "Easy" mode. If it catches their attention, he or she could consider moving to another platform.

The 93 Famicom reissue counts down the extra hearts faster than the other versions.

Hope this answers your question.

Nevermind, the changes to platform/console didn't take because I neglected the save button. Fixed.

Deleted JP "normal" (empty) and brought out "Easy" from Misc.
I can't update the platforms/consoles though. Probably need a true mod for that piece.

Hi @Space_Jam

Castlevania Discord link: https://discord.gg/kRKnbWQ
Pawel posted a guide here as well https://www.speedrun.com/cv1/guides

Good luck and have fun!

@barnowl Bailey% deathless is up!

Looks like a good idea to me. It's a well known password too. Let's get some more opinions.

I think Justin Bailey is going to boil down to an iceless category. Would we allow UP + A's too?