"So what is the solution for this? "
None cause that's literally what the point of a SPEEDrun IS.
Stop trying to revolutionize thing fuck sake, if you want to do a superplay then just do it? you don't need people opinion.

Well searching around on old bug report, the full map bug is a directX11 ONLY thing, but it's impossible to reproduce for me cause with the new launcher the game always launch the legacy(DX9) edition when i'm using old patch somehow?!?
Make me kinda mad, cause it's really an insane bug that allow for such optimization...

Having tested it yourself, can you tell me what version do you get by normally launching the game with old patch? if it's DX11 or 9.

Also fun fact: exploring save files made me realize i had around 1.5Go of screenshot on my drive, so you might want to check you're if you never did

Leaderboard adjustment is good, Sub-Categories don't need current patch treatment.

Holy Sh*t what a coincidence, i also searched the best downgrade version today and was about to post ahah!
Well actually i searched for hours trying Atlantis release, one of them(the first one) had a glitch that allowed you to have ALL maps revelead when creating a new character(which gained so much time it's dumb)... unfortunately couldn't find a way to get the glitch again... oh well.

Anyway here is the best atlantis version, if you can add it to the guide:
: download_depot 475150 475151 3234804193993828418
This is obviously before the Skillpoint fix, but still after the Clip fix

By far the best version for anything beside any%.
Also you don't really need to download the depot for DLC.

Do uninstalling just the atlantis dlc fix the problem?
If so i don't see the problem at all, it's very easy to do.

Otherwise downpatches work like they normally do, and it's just a matter of finding the good one.

Title.

Since this is a category extensions Sub, could all the player levels(you know that second option in the main menu that you never clicked on) that are already pre-installed in the base game be added as level leaderboard?

Concerning the storm mastery skill,
You don't actually need to target an ennemy for it to work! Like other similar skill you can activate it using any distance weapon, and cancel it before the attack start.
Look something like this:

i actually did a shit ton of testing trying to get the permanent boost but no luck. anyway this is definitely the fastest way of moving in theory; i actually timed a few zone using different method and this is always on top, even faster than a 166% speed +weaponswap glitch character; but unless you are doing a TAS it's wortless in a real run, took me several attempt to do it kinda consistently just for testing, not even talking of the fact that doing it when running left and down is slow as fuck unless frame perfect.

Probably be useful in legendary run tho?(you can Delete Ragnarok and only have atlantis on very easily on steam) new pet attack of the storm class can apparently do some real damage(so do new nymph attack Btw.) and make you gain Enormous amount of time since you don't really use any speed boost in the run to start with.
I plan on doing a Ragnarok Legendary run later this week anyway, might try to go full stupid with a rune/storm combo, why not?

Concerning The minefield and having tested it a lot, it trend to do between 60-80%(depending of the boss move) of the damage a seal of fate do, so yeah not crazy against boss, but to kill standard mob DAMN it's the best thing ever.
Nothing like letting yourself be hit down to 15% of health to then insta kill every mob in the screen by pressing a button, assuring a very long -40% health boost without risk, and a guaranteed lvl 8-9 arriving in Egypt.
Assuming a good point dupe id say time loose is null... And it's FUN.

Very fair for the new Categories part, Will post a tartarus run very soon.(did a few already)

Hello there.

So as you probably know if you reading this, a new extension Called Atlantis recently dropped out of nowhere, that mainly had a new campaign, and a new mode.

This offer the possibility of 3 new categories:
-Atlantis run:Start at lvl 1 end when you enter the portal at the end of Atlantis.
Interesting because it's shorter than Hades run and also Harder overall, no a real game end tho so there that.
-Accomplished Atlantis Run: Start as an accomplished hero and take the portal the tartarus then back, wich will take you directly to the Atlantis campaign.(same + and - that above)
-Tartarus Run: Kill Tartarus, starting from lvl 40. Since you can directly go to tartarus from the start of a Accomplished hero run, this is the category that make the most amount of sense, even thought it's an UltraRNGfest (but this never stopped anyone).

Are those good enough to be considered full categories? i'd say yes, but did not test it quite enough to know for sure.(especially tartarus that i didn't really touch)

Beside That, it also Add/Tweak lot of things, and after testing quite a lot here is the one that i think are relevant from a speedrun perspective.

-You can now play the game using Dx11! This make the game more stable, and also somewhat change the way freeze work?(i can make more than 80+ point easy with DX11 in one freeze, way easier than with dx9 with the same setup to Slowdown my pc)this is obviously PC specific so you should test out how it compared for you, DX9 is still possible to use.

-pointdupe for skill work differently, it's hard to explain but basically if you try to dupe anything that's say for example level 14/15, when you cancel the point, the skill will downgrade to 0/15. it can be a pain if you aren't paying attention, but doesn't change anything beside that if just don't dupe on a skill you don't want to keep.

-Pressing shift when buying potion make you buy 10 by click(20 if you use both mousse button) extra small speed gain but it's nice.

-item now display rarity without the need of the cursor irrelevant speed gain (for searching boots) but it's nice.

-New Skill! not clear how much time is gained for it, but there is definitely some in a few classes(new Rune mines are Fantastic for example, nature is also really good.)

-Higher skill point cap, 40 instead of 32, probably make you win like 5 sec in a full run yeah.

And that's it i guess.
What are you thought?

new categories when indeed.

Those would not be 100% tho, True ending should be the name of the category

I guess i do, but do you know if this skip work with a collosus scroll?

Just tested it(supposing i understand it correctly) it doesn't seem to work on PC.

OK But why tho.
If you want to submit a 100% run glitchless you are totally free to do so in the current 100% leadearboard.

And no offense, but there isn't much point in having a category that no one will run.

I'm not surprised at all by Rune being better/more consistent than dream(after all a perfected dragon hunter run allow you to skip boot all together), but damn didn't think it was THAT consistent, like holy shit.
I'm my head always being at 40% hp was way harder^^

I'm also really curious about that 1 mastery run, like how do that even work, do you just seal of fate every boss???

Speaking of rune, you seem to never use the Guardians stone power, which i don't really get since at max power it's incredibly powerful.

Really Love it, that's a Better structure than a shit ton of way more runned game you got right there!
The possibilty to have both a glitchless and any% run at the same time is very nice(John_S Run sure is inspiring) and Acc.Hero co-op is hype, "someone" should get on that :V

Some minor detail i'd like to add tho:
Reallyyyyy not a fan of the NGS name.
i understand the idea behind it, by honestly find it both confusing and unnecessary, for me thing like locking Nehebkau are exploit not glitch(i know definition vary) but pretty sure no one gonna argue was is a glitch or not anyway^^
And also in the eventually that another huge glitch is somehow found(you never know) then the category is already covered.

We should also probably seize the occasions to drop a few any% mention,
Ideal name for me would be:
Any%, Glitchless, Any%Co-op, Legendary.

Fuck sinmara and loki.

Alright, FINALLY got some free time to do a run.

Here the conclusion:
Mage build suck plain and simple. i had a earth+rune one, but i can clearly say that none are viable for this.
And... yeah that's about it. Only good point was stone form, other than that it's an absolute slug fest+if a single boss as a energy draining weapon the run is rip... and i had 3 in my run ahah(kill me)

PS:fuck sinmara and loki.

I also profited of the occasion to try and skip every dialog possible, and yeah, barrier are just everywhere( actually was really suprised by that) you really can't advance until you speak to every single quest giver, a shame.

Side note regarding your run: i noticed that you never use any scroll ever, which I think you should.
Taking 2-3 sec to check for the primal chaos scroll (appear like 50% of time in ragnarok) can make you gain a lot of time on the last few boss.
+Fun fact, this scroll also transform you into a giant for 60 sec which allow you to bypass the 166% max walking speed. not really useful but hey that's a thing.

did i say fuck sinmara and loki yet? cause fuck em.

Glad to see some enthusiasm 🙂

ql28>
Well i my head this the perfect glitchless category, cause it offers a lot of possibility for build Right of the gate which is lot of fun.
Also, there isn't really any point using glitch here cause it will be the exact same run than any% but shorter, and way more rng heavy, so it's no fun.

Basically come done to 'it's more fun that way!"^^
Not at all saying this should be a glitchless only run tho.

John_Stanford >
Holy s* you're fast, I actually had the EXACT same full hunter + rune idea earlier^^
I would just had 1 point in Thunder strike, just because i love the idea of clicking on monster far away to get the 200% speed boost every 7sec (definitely not faster tho :p)
Also never would have though of using no armor at all it's so counter-intuitive! Really interesting idea. is is that much it's that much better tho, since you can get some pretty big bonus of armor piece?(guess this depend on your luck at the shop)
Argh, so much thing to test out!

But First i really want to try a full magical build (dream/earth/rune/tempest) just to see how much "bottleneck" the boss have.
Will try that tomorrow.

Hello in there.

So! With the arrival of ragnarok also came a new option called "accomplised hero", wich let you a the start of a new character start the game directly at the ragnarok DLC and lvl 40.

Put it simply, i thinks this mode should have it's own category.

It allow for thing other category don't:
a short category, a good entry point for eventual new player, and more importantly a way easier glitchless run.

So in the latest Nintendo Direct Mini, N just announced a new free update(AKA Mandatory) that's going to add new outfit in the game...
Which gonna probably mean change in the 100% ruling.

This also mean that now, we can easily guess this won't be the only update this game will receive, and glitch getting patched are a real possibility.

Thought on the future?

...
https://www.speedrun.com/botw/full_game#All_Towers

this is now uselless 😛

Also to add to that, is there any real reason for the category to stay in miscellaneous?

I mean i see why it was originally, but it's the second most popular run...