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I thought of this idea a couple years ago with the DS title however, it is not really a good idea because some exits (such as 2-4 secret) cannot be accessed in low%. The idea of making it more challenging doesn't do much in regards to it either, using the penguin suit to speed up levels is already challenging in it of itself because sliding on non-ice platforms kills your speed so you need to jump very often. Other things such as vertical climbing is also challenging to optimize with acorn suit. Staying small mario just to challenge yourself in that terms is a bit counter intuitive because technically no its not anymore challenging to optimize something by restricting yourself in that means.

You should also think about joining the discord server the mods and everyone else are always willing to answer questions and you will hear a response much quicker than the forums. Link is here:

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Idk and also please use the discord if you have any questions

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for any inquires please do use the discord all the mods are ready to listen and very friendly thank you 🙂


Please the discord for any inquiries the mods are alot more active there


its a bit rough around the edges thats all e.g. the top of the 'new' logo is cut off and the joycons are a bit rough apart from that its fine

Also with any further inquiries please join the discord server:


Give it a bit of a polish up and I’ll definitely add it


All levels is just a few levels off all castles which means there is no point in doing all levels then. Plus all castles is a long enough category as it is for the games, if you wanna play all levels why not try 100%.

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If you need any help with anything join the discord everyone there is very knowledgeable of the game and willing to help

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Wow, a name I havent seen in a while

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If this were to become a category it would probably be called All exits just due to the nature of what you said. Honestly this category doesnt seem 100% necessary in my mind because it just seems like we are setting up a mid way between All Castles and 100% which idk about you but All Castles was already the mid way between Any% and 100%


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Its dependent on what console you play on.

Because the ds is the original console it is played on that is pretty much the middle ground. Coincidentally it is also the slowest of the 3 so times must be added onto any WiiUVC run or emulator run.

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I have a definitive answer. The opening cutscene from file select to first input goes for 1:47.10.
The loading time from file select to first input is 5.04 seconds there fore
if we were to start from first input I recommend starting from file select with -5.04 on the timer that way you start at 0 when you first move in the over world
but if we were to continue having the run start with the cutscene then I recommend starting at file select again but with the timer starting at 1:42.06 that way when you first move in the overworld the timer hits 1:47.10


Alrighty I did a bit of testing with loading times and here's what I came up with

First: The opening cutscene goes for around 1:47.16 Im still unsure however because it is so difficult to see

Second: The loading time from first selection to first imput minus opening cutscene is about 5.04. I thought this would be useful because in NSMB 2 the game starts on first imput so most people just start the timer on file select with a -3.27 however in our case it would be -5.04

Update: Under closer examination the opening cutscene actually goes for somewhere inbetween 1:46.95 and 1:47.05


Ill test it a bunch to see what the actual time is


well I have a follow up to this the timer would need to start at 1:47. something


Its come to my attention that starting a run at the select screen is very obnoxious because of the cutscene

so I propose we start on first imput idk wether to make the timer start later or not

the timer would start some where near 1:48 if we were to start later

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