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Forum: Harvest Moon

Thread: Any% rules are contradictory/ambiguous

Started by: BeardstrengthBeardstrength

20 Mar 2023, 19:08

Yes, it is inconsequential, but it's quite obvious to anyone looking and that's why it was brought to our attention so promptly. The reason I missed it is because I was focused on frame counting as we've had a lot of runs coming in recently for both the English and Japanese version of this category. I am at fault for accepting those runs and I apologize that I wasn't able to let you know earlier before you submitted more runs.

It is clearly stated in both the rules and the category name, Any% has been defined by the larger speedrun community and I've not seen anyone else misinterpret the rules of this category in this way. The word final is not ambiguous, there is a final day of the game (the last day of the third summer) and the code exists to advance you to that day, end your game, and see the ending scenes early. You're right, it is not uncommon for speedrun categories to exist that are only a portion of the game. I would say, though, that it is uncommon for those categories to be called "Any%".

This category is not a Day1% speedrun, it is an Any% speedrun. It would be well within the rules to sleep for those 2.5 years and not use the code at all. The code is not required, it is just the best strategy for advancing to the end of the game.

The best way I can describe this to you is, if somebody was finishing up Super Mario 64 and didn't collect the final star after Bowser, it wouldn't be a completed run. If somebody walked up to Ganon at the end of Ocarina of Time but didn't swing their sword, it wouldn't be a completed run. Every run MUST have a final input, and in this category it's L+R+Start+Select. The 2m 05s 767ms run you mention might be the fastest "English Day 1 Speedrun", but it is not the fastest English Any% run.

DezertPenguin8DezertPenguin8, Sam_Van_DamSam_Van_Dam and Retrogirl_2Retrogirl_2 like this. 

Forum: Harvest Moon

Thread: Any% rules are contradictory/ambiguous

Started by: BeardstrengthBeardstrength

20 Mar 2023, 16:57

The category is for completion of the game which has always been stated in the rules, timing ends on the final day -- your runs did not complete the game. The code is not a requirement but it is the fastest way to complete the game.

Your previous runs were accepted in error, as I was focused on the frame counting and not on the actual completion of the run, which is that the final day is triggered and the ending sequence begins.

DezertPenguin8DezertPenguin8, Sam_Van_DamSam_Van_Dam and Retrogirl_2Retrogirl_2 like this. 

Forum: Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life

Thread: New Any% Abandon category?

Started by: FrozenCasketFrozenCasket

20 Jan 2022, 02:41

Hey, we have discussed internally and we won't be adding the category. It is mostly just advancing text through the intro, walking for a few seconds, and advancing some more text. There would be nearly no gameplay. The game doesn't end, there are no credits. This is just a manual return to the title screen that Marvelous added in SE.

FrozenCasketFrozenCasket likes this. 

Forum: Bee Simulator

Thread: Platform Split?

Started by: DemoDemo

15 Mar 2021, 00:41

Hey, there.

I have done some runs of the game (lost the highlights unfortunately) on PS4 and have noticed that the runs on PC use some sort of movement that I've been calling "drunk bee".

It appears they are zigzagging back and forth really fast using the mouse controls which I don't believe is something that can be done on console.

Do you think it might be beneficial to split the board out into the separate platforms? Maybe not all four, but potentially a split between PC and Console? I don't know if there are significant loading differences between PS4, Switch, and XBone.

If not, that's fine. I would like to eventually do some runs on PC regardless when I get a new machine.

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Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Win the Drinking Contest

Started by: 0hMalleyCat0hMalleyCat

5 Feb 2020, 04:25

The fabled "All Golden Tools".

We've always talked about it, but nobody has put themselves through it.

0hMalleyCat0hMalleyCat likes this. 

Forum: Harvest Moon DS Cute

Thread: Channel Spirite

Started by: Dat_SlimeDat_Slime

8 May 2018, 18:36

If you want to run a category, I'll add it for you. The rules will be decided by the people who want to run it. In most cases, I'd say glitches would be allowed.

 

Forum: The Site

Thread: Leaderboards moderation requests thread

Started by: GyooGyoo

15 Apr 2018, 22:03

Hello, I'm a series moderator for Harvest Moon. https://www.speedrun.com/hm

We have a moderator for a game in the series (Harvest Moon DS Cute) who we haven't been able to get in contact with. https://www.speedrun.com/Harvest_Moon_DS_Cute

I'm not sure if this game was added to speedrun.com before the series functionality was available or what exactly happened, but our Series Mods (Super Mods) are not able to approve runs or make changes to the game.

If you could fix this for us, we would be very grateful!

Jaypin88Jaypin88 and MelonSliceMelonSlice like this. 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: All Photos - When should the timer stop for run completion?

Started by: DemoDemo

13 Mar 2018, 04:25

Winning 8-5, the new timing method will be ended at scrolling to the final page of the completed photo album.

 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: All Photos - When should the timer stop for run completion?

Started by: DemoDemo

6 Mar 2018, 19:50 (edited: 13 Mar 2018, 04:26)

[Removed Strawpoll Link]

Please vote in this poll. Existing runs (at this point, only one) will be retimed to accommodate.

 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Naming the Cupid/5 Rival/All Rival Marriages Category

Started by: DemoDemo

3 Mar 2018, 18:17

A few months back I completed what I was calling a "Cupid" run, where all 5 rival marriages have to happen and timing ends on the first wedding bell of the 5th marriage.

It's been requested that I add the category for visibility and so others can see it as a possibility to run the game if they're interested.

The question is, what do we call it? Please vote below.

https://www.strawpoll.me/15192003

 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Phantom Greenhouse

Started by: oddtomoddtom

9 Aug 2017, 16:17

I did not know that about the festival/invisible wall thing. That explains why sometimes I can jump out but get stuck. If it only costs 1 reset to remove it per attended festival, I still think it's worth doing for +affection on gifting the various crops in the off seasons.

I have a few places where I have collected some notes. Some on pastebin, some on Google Docs, some from MrWeables himself.

I'll gather it together and let you know.

 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Phantom Greenhouse

Started by: oddtomoddtom

9 Aug 2017, 13:49

I've played around with this and there is solid potential for the All Photos run (or future longer categories such as All Weddings, All Recipes, etc).

I plan on doing All Photos attempts later this year and this will be incorporated in some way.

 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Sound required?

Started by: oddtomoddtom

1 Jun 2017, 14:35

Hey, sorry I was absent for this whole exchange but it does look like you have it figured out.

I wouldn't reject a run for having no sound, though it would be preferred.

If you aren't already, you should use the emulator settings from TBJESE. He did months of research to get the game to run almost identically to console.

http://www.speedrun.com/hm64/guide/2lafh

 

Forum: Super Mario Bros.

Thread: Trying to find new ways to make flagpole glitch RTA viable.

Started by: mav6771mav6771

2 Feb 2017, 15:18

I've been looking around trying to find out about achieving the FPG but not getting the frame rule, I know darbian has talked about it during his attempts but I was hoping for some exact numbers. These were my first two successful completions during runs and both times I missed the frame rule.

Am I correct in assuming that I just have to do either the underground or the actual FPG execution faster to get the frame rule?

KingOfJonnyBoyKingOfJonnyBoy likes this. 

Forum: StarTropics

Thread: StarTropics Speedrunning Discord Server

Started by: DemoDemo

21 Dec 2016, 05:30

Set this up a while ago and never linked it on sr.com!

Come chat and ask questions about the runs!

https://discord.gg/0iS5XjeDRTg1ByRo

 

Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Harvest Moon 64 Speedrunning Discord

Started by: DemoDemo

30 Nov 2016, 15:52 (edited: 21 Dec 2016, 05:28)

https://discord.gg/7wtwtkW

Also has channels for the other Harvest Moon titles as well.

¤¤Channel updated as of 12/20/16

 

Forum: Harvest Moon

Thread: Harvest Moon Series Speedrunning Discord

Started by: DemoDemo

30 Nov 2016, 15:43 (edited: 21 Dec 2016, 05:28)

https://discord.gg/7wtwtkW

This is a Discord channel for chatting about running all the various titles as well as general chat about the series.

¤¤Channel updated as of 12/20/16

 

Forum: StarTropics

Thread: Dungeon RTA - Yes/No?

Started by: FoulcoFoulco

23 Nov 2016, 14:12

This is extremely impressive and a cool concept. Dungeons are the places where the most time is lost so it doubles as an effective method of practice.

I like it, and I'd probably utilize it.

 

Forum: Super Mario Bros.

Thread: your opinions on leaderboard rules for SMB1 and SMB2j

Started by: SaradocSaradoc

16 Nov 2016, 17:29 (edited: 16 Nov 2016, 22:05)

How would one go about an official request to review/remove MagicScrumpy's time on the leaderboard (currently 16th place). If Kenneth Moser's was removed due to speculation of being tool assisted, this one should be a no brainer.

This is all coming to light due to some tool assisted work he's done with other games (as well as submitting a Smash Bros combo video into a contest with a cash prize, claiming it was all done by a human, but with heavy speculation that it was also tool assisted). There has been a ton of discussion on Reddit/Discord and I think it's time for a re-review and ruling.

Ultimately, having this run stay approved diminishes the integrity of the leaderboard.

EDIT: Thank you, Mav! The time has been removed.

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Forum: Harvest Moon 64

Thread: Marriage %?

Started by: DemoDemo

20 Oct 2016, 13:55

Hey, thank you! I edited the run as it was done on Project 64 1.7, so I checked the Emulator box.

I appreciate it! I'm going to work on this time a lot in the coming weeks.

 
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