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Forum: Diversity

Thread: No breaking or placing items unless instructed or implied.

Started by: l4m2l4m2

Lets not make a mountain out of a mole hill. The point of speedrunning is as a community effort to lower the time taken to complete various categories decided by the community. Without the boat OoB, the category would be some combination of Survival Branch Only and Glitchless no Preserve. The point of the way the categories are split is to have as few redundancies as possible. Each category has a fairly different route, and that's the beauty of it. We could add 10 more categories and have all of them be combinations of the other ones, but that's just silly. The rule is vague enough as it is, so instead we'll use common sense and reason to not box ourselves in with hard, fast, rigid rules that are black and white, rules of our own creation. The verified runs exist, and I'm also not about to delete them just because they violate some sudden rule change. Although the rules do seem to include boats, by doing so we'd cause much many more issues to crop up. The point of the category is to showcase the preserve primarily, and I feel it does this fairly well. So in conclusion, I see no reason to change what we've already established. The categories are good enough as is, as changing them would cause many more problems to crop up.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

I'd thought you could do 2 freebies like that, but I tried for quite a while and every time, I was teleported before the second wool was given. Either way, for the purposes of not having too many redundant categories, we're just going to keep it at 1 freebie. And I don't know if there is anything to do in dropper for preserve.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

Not only is it redundant for the rules to say that multiple freebies aren't allowed in an All Branches run where any freebies aren't allowed, multiple freebies aren't allowed in any run except any%.

Obtaining multiple freebies is due to a minecraft glitch rather than a map exploit, due to it requiring a S+Q.
In the glitchless categories, S+Q is banned, thus multiple freebie wools are not allowed.

In All Branches, no freebie is allowed because you are getting all the wool from every branch,

Additionally, infinite freebie wool it just any% anyway, there was an old any% speedrun from a while back that used infinite freebies. So even if there was a way to get them without S+Q, it is still banned in that category due to it essentially obsoleting the category itself.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

you are looking in the wrong spot. It's under no exploits because that is the only applicable category

Timing starts on movement and ends upon respawning on top of the wall facing the Diversity logo. You must get the wool from their respective spots in each branch, you may not skip to the end or take the freebie wool.

You may not use any glitches in Minecraft, nor use any exploits in the map mechanics.

The following exploits are forbidden in this category:
-- Skipping portions of the labyrinth branch due to damage boosting or surviving a dip in lava.
-- Jumping into the redstone below the Boss Battle Branch and altering the contents of the hopper to skip fighting the Witherboss.
-- Preserving items from any branch outside of that respective branch.
-- Activating command blocks from outside of the bedrock box in the Survival branch.
-- Obtaining multiple freebie wools. <----------- HERE

This is not an exhaustive list, these are just the currently known exploits. Any new exploit not on this list is also considered banned.

1. All map rules must be followed. Generally speaking, map rules trump all.
2. No altering gameplay affecting options (difficulty, open to lan, etc.) after loading the map, unless instructed to do so by the map rules.
3. No mods are allowed except optifine (assuming zoom is not utilized) and mods specifically required by the map.
4. Use the correct Minecraft version for the map version you have.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

It was added.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

Yes you probably could. And All Branches remains a misc category for now because there are no runs.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

yeah, therein lies a major problem, it would basically invalidate all previous runs, thus we cannot do it.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

I was thinking it might be best to re-time IL's, starting on first movement and including getting the white wool etc. But currently, no preparation is allowed for IL's.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

Yeah actually, that is a good idea. Hmm... yeah i guess in theory you could preserve stuff to other branches...
Well, if we need another category, we'll make it when the run shows up that doesn't fit well into other categories. For now, we have plenty imo.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

OK, the categories have been clarified.
We now have All Branches, which allows all glitches and exploits, and a version which allows none.
Additionally, No Exploits has been removed. This is done to remove as much overlap as possible, because personally I think it's kind of silly if we have two categories that are virtually identical save one gets the freebie and one does the arena branch instead.

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Forum: Diversity

Thread: Category Potential: Any% CTM

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

This would involve only the survival branch and the branches that are faster than survival, like trivia, etc. I dont think this would be a good category as it would overlap too much with other categories and cause confusion.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: All Branches

Started by: l4m2l4m2

Not sure how you could preserve ender pearls, as again we can't alter command blocks into the hub, but submit a run and we'll check it out. We can take a vote if we want glitches/exploits allowed for No Freebie/All Branches, or we could even make 2 versions of it.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: Multiplayer

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

Correct. The first player to move is when timing starts, not when player 1 starts. There is no player 1.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: Challenge Idea that could be a Miscellaneous category

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

These sorts of runs aren't often done, and are generally kept to a separate leader board for big games etc. This won't be added, but definitely go for it.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: One more thing to add to the rules

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

Rules have been updated to reflect this. This is something I hadn't thought about before. I wonder how/if it would save much time somehow, by using the Wither status effect somehow.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: Rejected Glitches (WP) run

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

All runs must have a visible timer, or some proof thereof. Going into the world files and showing the exact tick count would be acceptable, that can be converted into real time (20 ticks per second, 60 seconds per minute, etc). Doing this, however, you must make sure that you show that the world you played in and the world of the stats file you opened are the same, and that is has been completely unedited (so don't cut the recording etc, just keep recording until you find the tick count). Having a timer visible is still highly recommended. There are other accurate timers, like WSplit for instance.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: Survival Branch Only questions

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

Eh, lets not use the freebie. The point is get everything from the Survival Branch. Feel free to use the vanilla brown wool, it still comes from the Survival Branch, thus its ok.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: Level preparation

Started by: l4m2l4m2

There is currently no known ay to preserve anything out of the lobby, so that doesn't help.

 

Forum: Diversity

Thread: 2 Players 1 Keyboard and Mouse

Started by: ThatRaisinThoThatRaisinTho

Eh, I'm a bit hesitant to add this many extraneous categories, so likely not.

 

Forum: SM64: Ocarina of Time

Thread: Why noone is verfying my runs?

Started by: KongtasticKongtastic

Mods for small games like these usually aren't as involved in the moderating as those for big games like Odyssey etc. They just haven't been online or had enough time to verify.