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Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Was your run rejected?

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

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A few day ago, it was my pleasure to welcome a second member to the moderation team: @Colin_HenryColin_Henry. Colin is a long-time trusted member of this community, and I have every faith he will uphold the same standards I have tried to establish and uphold myself. Having more members in the moderation team generally means faster judging times. There was a span during which many submitted runs were delayed by several months before they were judged.

Now, there are sometimes runs that have to be rejected for one reason or another. It nearly always involves an accidental oversight of the category rules, by the runner. When that happens, we try to find another category that the run might be applicable for. If the run is nowhere near the top of the leaderboard, we might be even willing to overlook some mishaps. But when nothing works, we are forced to reject the run.

If this happens to you, and you feel that your run has been rejected without a valid reason, this thread is for you.
Please post your appeal here, along with a link to your video (and other relevant information pertaining to your submission). This will make the moderation process more transparent and public, but it means that everyone gets to see both sides of the argument: Yours, and the moderators’.

Note that spam and off-topic posts will still be deleted at the moderators’ discretion. This thread is NOT for advertising runs, or for discussion that is other topic than that which is posted in this very post. Flaming and aggressive language is likewise prohibited. Until evidence shows otherwise, all parties of the debate are recommended to assume that an innocent mistake has been made in good faith.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Devilstrand Harvest - Sea Ice - Impossible?

Started by: madOne6809madOne6809

Thanks for the heads-up!

 

Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: *IMPORTANT* Unlisted videos on YouTube

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

On 2021-07-23, any unlisted YouTube videos from 2016 or before will be changed to private unless you manually opt-out of this change. Make sure you opt out if you submitted any records that link to an unlisted video on your channel! Otherwise those videos will become unwatchable.

Go to https://studio.youtube.com/ or https://support.google.com/youtube/contact/older_unlisted_update for more information.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Block Seeds

Started by: frost_coyotefrost_coyote

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Short answer: No.

Long answer: Even though speedrun records are milestones for individuals, speedruns are a community project. They are built on community knowledge.

This is evident in many speedrun communities where players livestream their process of testing out new tricks, and even publish video tutorials about them, before they manage to grab the record.

Once you make a run, everything you did will be public and available for other players. (And it is important for verification purposes that you don’t hide anything, even inadvertently.) Likewise, don’t pretend that you don’t use any knowledge accumulated from other players either. If you accomplish a record, that is your reward, having the best leaderboard position.

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Forum: RimWorld

Thread: New Category

Started by: CowchyCowchy

I would like to see an example run of this (with signs of at least attempting to optimize it), in order to judge whether it’s too trivial. Feedback from other people would be also useful.
As I see it, the core strategy would be to just open an ancient danger and then gift everything you find inside to the least unfriendly faction. The method of gifting becomes the threshold question.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Allowing Mod: RandomPlus

Started by: Colin_HenryColin_Henry

Not only the "Why this one and not ", but it also opens the can of worms related to "what happens if the author decides to update this mod".
If there is enough motion to suggest a change to the rules, it may be considered, but right now, the downsides outweigh the upsides.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Rimworld Escape Subcategory Idea: Ascent%

Started by: ArchduckArchduck

This sounds interesting. As I have not played the DLC yet, I would need some help crafting the rules. Is there an example letsplay I could watch of this to the end?

 

Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: All Achievements Run idea

Started by: GeneralDarianGeneralDarian

It sounds interesting. It is a bit different from All Endings, although not very much.

So far no runner has expressed interest in doing this run though. We don’t like empty leaderboards, generally speaking.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Ideas for other goals

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

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I don’t think that would bring anything particularly new in cannibal% compared to the human leather hat category (WR ~25s). It would just mean skipping one step.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: RimWorld version 1.1

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

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The RimWorld release cycle has been slower since 1.0 was released, but an announcement was just made at [[ https:/​/​ludeon.​com/​blog/​2020/​02/​rimworld-1-1-available-on-unstable-steam-branch/​ ]] about RimWorld version 1.1, which is currently available for beta testing.

It incorporates many usability changes, some tunings, and a heap of fixes. I added a new value for the version number variable, 1.1, but for now, unless a reason arises to do differently, we judge these runs in the same listing as 1.0 runs.

 

Forum: The Talos Principle Category Extensions

Thread: Autobot category deleted?

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

It seems the autobot category has been deleted without any announcement. Bummer.

 

Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: Is Consistent Newspaper Skip Legal?

Started by: DefaultGuyDefaultGuy

I am inclined to judge that resizing the game window is an operation that is performed outside the game, not inside the game, and as such it is not allowed. The game itself does not provide tools for resizing the window; it is your operating system that provides this facility. Therefore it falls into the same category as would e.g. changing the game temporary file folder read-only or similar shenanigans.

There is an additional concern: In some cases this glitch is difficult to distinguish from having two instances of the game open simultaneously and just clicking outside in the other window. To verify that this is not the case, the runner would need to have some sort of task manager visible for validation. However, this adds an extra layer of complexity for judging. Now you not only have to judge that the game footage is valid; you also have to judge that the desktop footage is valid. This is a slippery slope I would rather avoid.

However, rather than force my decision on the matter, I will await for further input from the other moderators.

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Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: Timing criteria

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

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Timing criteria for all categories is this (at least how I have done it):

• Run begins exactly when the highlight on the "NEW” button, on the game-load screen, disappears for the last time.
• Run ends exactly when the highlight on the last “NEXT” button disappears for the last time, on the screen that precedes the screen that shows the ingame timer and stamp counts etc.

Both events need to be judged frame-by-frame from the vod, and the time difference of these two events forms the official run time.

These rules ensure fair and accurate timing for runs of all categories regardless of the type of the ending.

If there is a timer visible on the video, the judge may utilize this timer to verify that the footage does not have discrepancies, but it is not used for timing the runs.

If these events are impossible to discern from the video, or the game has glitched in such manner that the highlight of the button fails to appear or to disappear, it is up to the moderator’s discretion whether the time can be deduced by some other means, such as from microphone sounds indicating mouse/keyboard actions. If the moderator is unable to judge the exact time, the run will be rejected.

The closer that the run is towards the leaderboard top or the closer the time is to other leaderboard entries, the more accurate the timing must be. For runs where the exact timing is not relevant for its position on the leaderboard, we may settle for less accurate timing (whole-second accuracy), if frame-timing turns out too difficult to determine.

Therefore, all players are instructed to make sure that your footage is good quality and that all parts of the game screen are visible at all times and that the game audio is audible at all times.

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Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: Report

Started by: executeexecute

I agree with this evidence and I have now rejected Caisang’s run(s). Sorry for taking so long. These accusations have already lingered for several months, at least since August.

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Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Read the rules, or the run may be rejected

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

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Over the years there have been several submissions from people who have submitted an otherwise good run, but which have been rejected for failing to satisfy some particular criteria in the category rules. It is always sad when that happens, so please make sure you read the rules carefully.

This is the list of all reasons that submissions have been rejected so far:

• Failed to prove that no mods were used. Solution: Go to main menu, open the mods tab, show that no mod is enabled, and then start your run.
• Game audio is not present in the video.
• Video is not viewable (copyright torpedo or privacy setting).
• Run has been submitted twice.
• Neutralize Ancient Danger: Didn’t open cryptocaskets.
• 99 Bottles of Beer: The bottles are never selected and the message “Beer x 99” never shows on screen.

All of above have occurred more than once, except the cryptocasket one.

Some runs have been given mercy despite breaking rules:

• Escape: Ending demo was not shown or player didn’t let the text start scrolling on its own (something it does only in an actual ending,)
• NAD: Didn’t prove that no threats remain.
• Didn’t prove that devmode was not used.
• Didn’t prove that mods were not used.
• Game audio is missing.

Mercy may be given, if the runner is reputable and/or the infraction has negligible impact to the run’s verifiability, and it is clearly an accidental lapse.
However, when the infraction is about failing to perform certain actions that the category mandates, or failing to perform an action that signals the moment when the timer should be stopped, the run has to be rejected for fairness reasons. And it is terribly sad whenever that has to be done. So please do read the rules carefully before you begin your run!

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Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Ideas for other goals

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

I am not the person to reject a run just because there is no category for yet. If you submit such a run, chances are there will be a category made for it. But as usual, it needs fair and clear rules. In a "all of the planet" run that "pirate all pirates" would fall to, the world size is definitely a factor, for instance.

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: 99 Bottles of Beer - Naked Brutality submission

Started by: GlithenGlithen

Thanks for the submission. It will be judged within a few days. However, I notice that the mouse cursor is not visible. Any reason why?

Also you were being _barraged_ by Discord notifications…

 

Forum: RimWorld

Thread: Dual/quad runs dilemma

Started by: BisqwitBisqwit

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Question: Currently all “Naked Brutality” runs that are faster than existing “regular” runs are published as dual WRs, in both categories. Should “Naked Brutality” runs be exempted from the regular category?

The same also applies to Ice Sheet / Extreme Desert runs that are faster than the “regular” WR.

 

Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: Auto clicker

Started by: EdweirdoEdweirdo

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Autoclickers are not permitted for any run.

 

Forum: Papers, Please

Thread: New Category? Ending 12

Started by: Big_ChuroBig_Churo

It does not particularly add value compared to an escape (ending 3) run, as the difference in the number of days is very small.