I just discovered a difference regarding the timing of the first Frame on SMBX2 and TheXTech.

On SMBX2, during the first run, the first frame is counted as .015, while on the second run, it's counted as .000:

To prevent this, the Engine needs to be restarted after a run. The same used to apply to TheXTech. However, this is no longer the case:

With both, the first and second run, the first frame is counted as .015.

How should this difference be accounted for? Which rules should apply to each Engine?

EDIT: Level file: https://files.catbox.moe/lq8juy.zip

First Frame of the Credits Level in each Category.

EDIT: This should probably be clarified on the Game/Category Rules.

Do you have a Link for people without Discord?

EDIT: At https://www.speedrun.com/ctr/resources would be good.

In my setup I have replaced the default Toad with the Blue SMB3 Toad (that's also used in STTB). I have made a few Runs with it.

My take: If custom Character Sprites have an identical shape to the ones included in any of the permitted SMBX Versions and you can proof it, it should be allowed.

This is the Toad I am using now: Toad.zip

I verified that the shapes are identical by creating Mask-GIFs with the Moondust PNG2GIFs tool, and comparing their MD5 Checksums:

For character sprites that are shaped differently, that should be up to the Mod's discretion.

Old TheXTech versions have the following issues:

- #148 Speedrun Timer stops when meeting Birdo in Mushroom Pass
- #160 Modified NPC-247 falls apart on TheXTech

1.3.5.2 is the earliest release to fix them.

The information may be updated in the future.

Separate Emu categories is a good idea. ePSXe runs could just stay in the console list like on the CTR boards.

2021-10: TheXTech 1.3.5.2 was released today. It is now the minimum version that's viable for Speedruns. For more details, see below.
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Due to an inaccurate timing on resize transitions, the current Release Version is not viable for speedrunning.

Please use the stable-1.3.5.x Branch for the time being:

Windows:

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-win64-stable-1.3.5.x.7z

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-win32-stable-1.3.5.x.7z

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-arm64-stable-1.3.5.x.7z

MacOS:

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-macos-uni-stable-1.3.5.x.dmg

Ubuntu:

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-ubuntu-20-04-amd64-stable-1.3.5.x.tar.gz

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-ubuntu-18-04-amd64-stable-1.3.5.x.tar.gz

thextech-super-mario-bros-x-ubuntu-16-04-amd64-stable-1.3.5.x.tar.gz

Android:

thextech-android-stable-1.3.5.x.apk

Source Code:

https://github.com/Wohlstand/TheXTech/tree/stable-1.3.5.x

RetroArch appears to have shorter loads and faster gamespeed.

Since no one objected to Ahvena's proposal, can it be added now? It's been two months and no real reasons against it. Concerns that there wouldn't be much competition have been disproved by recent 101% Warpless races. I want to return to the Category at some point and would like to see how my times compare to others.

Starting at 2h34m30s.

Heyo. Can you add Android, Linux and MacOS to the list of platforms?

Also, can you add the SMB1 Remake by Sapphire Bullet Bill?

https://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17413

https://archive.wohlsoft.ru/SMBX%20Episodes/Super%20Mario%20Bros.%20SMBX%20Edition/

I'd suggest the following categories:

- Any%
- Warpless
- New Quest
- New Quest Warpless

Oh, sweet! That looks very useful :3

Cool =)

Also, since Eclipsed approved TheXTech, I think you can officially release 1.3.4 and then link your GitHub/WohlSoft page with the builds.

> @EclipsedEclipsed: Also for >2, I can just say that they need to add the time they spend outside if they accidentally unfocus the window. That's what we've been doing

That would be fine, too.

> @WohlstandWohlstand: Btw, for speed-run modes, I can automatically enable the FPS showing and the disabling of the on-focus-lost pause, should I do that? this makes it very very easy by adding the little startup condition.

Yes, that would be very convenient =)

I made a KeyHoleTest world and GIFs:

https://imgur.com/a/LGHX2RX

https://files.catbox.moe/7jdpn4.zip

@EclipsedEclipsed In both cases, the time was 30.342 seconds.

Also, since XTech and X2 use In-Game timing, two rules should apply to them.

1. They shouldn't spend more than 5-10 Seconds in the Menu (we already discussed this).

2. They should force the game to keep running even when the window is unfocused.

I wrote here how to do the latter for TheXTech. SMBX2 Users can do it by starting it with the following Command:

LunaLoader.exe --runWhenUnfocused

Once SMBX2 fixes it, it should be always on true. Otherwise Mode 3 runners will be disadvantaged.

As Wohlstand said, the Rednaxela here is probably another person. I'm gonna write him in the Wohlsoft Forums.

RIP =(

@EclipsedEclipsed: Once all is said and done, I'm gonna write a Guide for TheXTech Runners with all the important details

The World Map issue is now resolved!

https://imgur.com/a/eHcNkBM

Time is 11.466, same as SMBX2!