yeah i'm definitely for it, just wasn't a thing before so i thought i'd mention it

also a really nice benefit i didn't mention: you don't get pushed out of the glitched flying swarm when you enter conversations

EDIT:

did some testing, it looks like it should be faster for any%. It seems like the best way to do it is still only exp glitch to 10 and hold off on getting haste and two other spells and grab both swarm and anti-magic ward there.

Then glitch to get enough money for tome after lothering, travel to denerim, go back to camp, buy another tome and dupe some. you'd potentially want at least 6 to get haste and to same offensive spells we'd normally have by denerim, and maybe more to gain access to even better combat abilities than we normally have (doesn't take long to add a single extra dupe once we are already there duping).

Only times you'd want to use morrigan with swarm are for denerim gate skip (still need to transform to get OOB in river and don't want to switch out of the glitched state with warden) and for arl howe's estate (the exterior) since if you do that run with the warden you can't easily get him inbounds to kill the two guards by the door.

reading dragon age wiki and accidentally found a new strat lul: if you are under effects of anti-magic ward while you cast flying swarm, you get some of the benefits including speed but stay in human form, and can cast all your spells/use potions. definitely useful for max quests and all treaties, could theoretically be useful for any% but would require changing route quite a bit (and allowing us to use some things like dlc items and previously unlocked specializations that might be sorta questionable?).

New categories are up for current patch (since the new patch removes the ability to do door/wall clips; all the other skips like OOB on Moshae/Remnant City still work).

Tentatively, these are going to have to wipe the leaderboards every time a patch is released (the can probably be migrated over to the general any%/any% ng+ leaderboards) as this allows people to do a run on equal footing with everyone else without having to worry about reverting patches, although I am working on a patch thing to allow people to revert to 1.05.

We're probably gonna do a "current patch" category once door clips get patched out (I've been told this is basically guaranteed by someone who works for Bioware). But glitchless is pretty unlikely, partly for the specific cases alta mentions, among others; for example, one person might argue that skipping any quest steps is a "glitch", like the jumps on eos vault or meridian. But the opposite can also be argued, because extending jump length via hovering is an intended game mechanic. I think just defining it by an easily understood thing, like game patch version is a better way to exclude some glitches.

The timing isnt as important as where you line up on the door, it's pretty precise. I'd recommend looking at Emilio's 2:34 run, you can see all of them that are used and where he lines up. It tends to be the same for each version of the same door type (all remnant doors work similarly, for example), but different door types have different spots. There's still a bit of randomness when you line up properly from what we can tell, but it can be virtually impossible to get through if you aren't standing in the right place

First skip I've found

Trying to clip under the island with Eos Vault

Minimum requirements to complete game:

Habitat 7: Pretty self explanatory. The Nexus: Once you've talked to Tann and SAM you can leave right away. Eos: Clear site 1, activate the 3 monoliths, do the vault and found an outpost. I made a military outpost. Nexus: talk to Tann and Addision and activate some cryo pods (the cryo pods might not be necessary but takes so little time I did it anyway). Aya: meet Efra Go to either Havarl or Voeld, complete a single short quest and then vidcall Efra. I rescued the scientists on Havarl. Voeld: rescue the Moshae. I decided to blow up the facility. Aya: Go to the vault with the Moshae, talk to Efra. Kedara Port: get the intel from the traitor, go into the field to pick up the transmitter. I agreed to Sloane's deal instead of rescuing the traitor, which made this section very quick. Archon's flagship: Do the quest. I save the Krogan instead of Pathfinder Raeka. Remnant City: explore it Space: deploy 3 probes Remnant City/Meridian: complete the final mission.

There is already a Bioware Speedrunning discord server that will be used for this game, message me on twitter or discord (letterswords#9157) for a link

Twitch made a new community feature that you can stream to I imagine most people will want to use the main Speedrunning community, but this is there if you'd prefer that instead

https://www.twitch.tv/communities/Bioware_speedrunning

Twitch made a new community feature that you can stream to I imagine most people will want to use the main Speedrunning community, but this is there if you'd prefer that instead

https://www.twitch.tv/communities/Bioware_speedrunning

Yup, I definitely would be doing it every run with the level of consistency it's at. Not 100%, but much better than when we had to pause fast.

Made a new discovery, and also a video of the trick so far.

So me and Bamz0rs made it about 70% of the way to finding a way to skip the gates fight. Steps:

1. Talk to Riordan in Denerim Castle so that you trigger the quest marker to talk to Morrigan
2. Go downstairs, use Warden+Daveth/Jory to trigger conversation glitch with Sten.
3. Add Sten and Morrigan to your party, then travel to Denerim Market (which is where the game thinks you are on map for some reason, so it's fastest).
4. Talk to Morrigan, which will trigger her dialogue where she talks to you about making baby to stop archdemon
5. Battle of Denerim cutscenes trigger.
6. You need to pause around .1-.2ish seconds after the your timer resumes after pausing for the load screen (load screen won't have disappeared yet completely) to avoid getting in combat so you can conversation glitch .
7. Conversation glitch with sten. This is pretty hard, sometimes you get only one conversation off before getting dragged into combat.
8. Riordan's post-gates dialogue triggers. However, all the enemies will still be there.
9. Hard part: you need to drop combat somehow to use area transition. We haven't found a good way to do this fast yet.

Note that getting the pause fast is really precise, so this glitch would probably be pretty annoying to do in runs.

i talked to the guy who found that and said it took him like 100 tries to pull it off so he could record that video.

There's two things i can think of to try: equip him with a bow and maybe he wont into combat so fast? Other than that maybe spam quicksave key as you are loading in, quickload, spam pause key, and then try to setup the conversation.

i'm not sure what the reasoning would be for wanting leliana over sten. the thing i linked from uses her basically as a substitute for sten because the guy who found it (same guy who did old segmented run) hadn't been skipping the joining (and thus didn't have anyone to picklock stens cage).

if you manage to trigger the conversation glitch there (which is pretty hard for the above mentioned reasons) it pushes you directly to the point in the end of gates conversation with riordan where he responds to your choice of who you picked for your party going forwards (probably because that dialogue is just coded to popup after you go through a party select screen on that map). After that, just need to run over to the map transition and get out of combat long enough to press it.

i think i figured that out before agdq so its probably in tutorial but maybe not. Also being able to mash 1 to get through slaver dialogue in alienage, i think i found that out like right after the tutorial. Also going back to camp in denerim to avoid random encounters in denerim isn't in (although thats just a safer strat rather than a faster one, given optimal circumstances).

I still want to see if I can find a way to pull off the denerim gates skip in a run but it seems really hard considering how sten kinda just runs around randomly to enemies, and getting a conversation in with him right at the start before entering combat seems pretty much impossible.

Nice, yeah good resources that are the biggest updates to the route since I made the tutorial. I think Tower of Ishal floor 2 is slightly different as well?

i definitely have no plans to do separate leaderboards by class (the runs are really not going to be different enough). I could put a tag up so you can at least see on the leaderboards what class each run is, but I did that when someone asked me before and then they never did any runs so the tag was meaningless because every run was on vanguard. I don't really want to put something up that isn't going to get used, so if you (or someone else) does a run with another class, I can put a tag on but until then, i'm leaving it as it is.