What decides the sideroll direction?
7 years ago
Illinois, USA

Greetings friends; I wasn't sure where to ask this.

When you hold target, then slightly down, then press A, Link rolls to the side -- sometimes left, sometimes right. Usually right. I'm glad he rolls right when we are doing Ocarina Dive in bottom of well, for example.

So it seems that by default, Link will roll to the right. But something about doing certain setups preparing for DoT skip makes it so that Link switches from rolling right to rolling left.

What is the something?

For example, if Link is in the mode where down+A causes link to roll right at the DoT, I seem to be able to fix it by executing backflip -> left sidehop -> backflip. After that, down+A causes link to roll left again.

Where can I learn what exactly is causing the siderolls to go to the left or the right? Or is the answer simple? Thanks!

New York, USA

If you do a sidehop right, he will sideroll right If you do a sidehop left, he will sideroll left If you do a backflip, he will sideroll right but the angle is different from a sidehop You can influence a sideroll if you do it standing still by hold slightly down left/right depending on which way you want to go. In the case of the dot skip pillar setup, you need to hold slightly down left as you do your sideroll. You can think of it as ess for how far to hold.

For further questions, join the oot discord. It is easier to answer questions here: https://discord.gg/cTKYgth

HippityLongEars likes this
Illinois, USA

I'm not talking about a neutral roll which always goes forward to some degree. I'm talking about the roll you get when you hold the control stick slightly down (but straight down, not ESS downleft or whatever).

Also, I'm pretty sure the real answer is more complicated than what Fig02 has posted, but it might be mostly right. For example the backflip statement is not true.

I will look into the discord, thanks!

Edited by the author 7 years ago
New York, USA

How's the backflip statement not true? lol

Its not as complicated as you make it seem. Siderolls are consistent in this game which is why so many setups use them.

ess straight down will always change depending on if you are more left or right. You can make sure you go the direction you want by holding more toward the direction you want to go, is all I was saying. It wont change your angle at all, it will just enforce the direction.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Netherlands

You can manipulate the down-roll with some camera adjustments for the hold slightly down part which alot of people don't know about.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
HippityLongEars likes this
Illinois, USA

@SnipinG117 Thank you, I know there is something weird here with camera, but in tutorial videos when a sideroll goes the wrong way, the person recording always thinks it is their controller messing up.

Can you give more details or do you know of a video where people look into this?

SnipinG117 likes this
Netherlands

@HippityLongEars: I will make a video showing how to manipulate it. Ill post it here when I'm done with it.

Update: Here is the video:

Edited by the author 7 years ago
HippityLongEars likes this
New York, USA

Yea this is really neat, definitely isn't documented anywhere. But in your case with the dot skip setup I would recommend sticking to slightly down left. As it is faster and not that difficult

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Illinois, USA

@SnipinG117 that is amazing and awesome. I wonder how many other little facts like this are hidden away with only a few people knowing how they work. Thanks so much!!

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