Legitimacy Concerns
8 years ago
North Carolina, USA

I formally accuse die_mann of editing cfg files to give higher chances of stamina artifacts and lowered enemy accuracy. Something like 7 runs in 2 weeks all with stamina artifact drops is beyond sketchy.

I propose:

A) Using the autosplitter for all times, now that there is a consistent autosplitter. Removing loads equalizes everything.

B) Adding a column for time without loads and having this column be the default sort

C) Removing all of die_mann's runs unless he provides a run with views of config files before the run, as well as launching the game from the same directory as the config files. This requires mic audio to prevent splicing.

Czech Republic

Are you sure? He apparently did over 1000 attempts to overcome bad luck.

North Carolina, USA

Is that so? Are there recordings of him losing runs to bad rng?

edit: are you aware what the rate is for stamina artifacts?

North Carolina, USA

if you post a video at least link a timestamp

North Carolina, USA

here's a section where he gets TWO flashes in once run.

that run died because he failed the tree jump in red forest, no luck involved

Czech Republic

I guess the runner should explain himself. It would be pretty stupid to livestream with some sort of advantage, though.

North Carolina, USA

it's just an issue with how easy the game files are to edit. Either the community goes through lengths to show legitimacy or the game is forever seen as easily exploitable with no legitimacy checks. It's just how it is.

California, USA

Could someone find and post the odds of getting a single endurance artifact? I genuinely forget the drop rate for them.

Drenthe, Netherlands

This may sound silly, but has anyone else tried that scorcher skip? I did a lot of experimenting trying to reach the load zone without getting murdered, and I found instant killzones all around it, regardless of the timed pulses. But I didn't try his specific route, so I can't be sure if that one does work.

United States

The skip works from both areas in the red forest where you can jump from trees over the fence. When you are close to the level change trigger, the emissions will kill you if you aren't at nearly full health and not bleeding. At the trigger itself, an emission will more than likely kill you if it goes off as you reach the level change prompt. That's why when I try it, I usually wait before exiting the level so it won't be an instant death.

Drenthe, Netherlands

Yeah I know that the pulses of damage get to lethal when you come close enough. But if you try to reach the load zone from behind, there's also a killzone that just ignores the pulses and will always kill you no matter your timing. It's very possible that this killzone just doesn't extend to the front though.

California, USA

The skip is legitimate. There is a buffer between emissions that you can time in order to exit the map without death. Once you pass a certain threshold the emission will kill you regardless, so you need to be just before that threshold and take a hit so that the game buffers before the next emission. The concern at the moment seems to be how often he gets endurance artifacts and how he takes very little damage in Sarcophagus.

Russia

Ok, guys, until the video not disappeared.

---> Regarding cfg files. all you want Since I know 100% that I have not changed anything in the files. I am confident in its purity.

with regard to autosplitter: Since on my vods and vods TheStalkerVal, Client: Synchronizing lasts ~1,5 -2 sec, while on TheButtravage vods: Client: Synchronizing lasts ~ 6-7 sec. It still does nothing. In addition, if during boot - time stops, you can just use it in Sarcophagus. ---> Saved - loaded - run 10 meters - saved - loaded. Thus it is possible to pass sarcophagus without a medkit. Since at boot time with you falls attention Monolith. And they are more besides in the first seconds loaded - reload a weapon. It will RETARD strats.

---> unless he provides a run with views of config files before the run I have already written about it.

---> This requires mic audio to prevent splicing. mt76907, probably you do not know that not everyone has a separate house with a separate room, how in the USA.

---> edit: are you aware what the rate is for stamina artifacts? I have no idea what kind of artifact drop rate. I can show how I fell artifacts when I reaches on the radar. 632 - 672 runs - ||||O|||O|||O| 673 - 712 runs - |||||||| 718 - 801 runs - ||O|||||O|||||||O|O| 802 - 877 runs - ||||||O|||||O|||||O||| 878 - 1020 runs - OO|O|||||||O|||||O|O Note: | run - no artifact O run - with the artifact regenerating stamina In total: 21 hours 30 min vods artifact dropped 16 times. [↑ This also applies to the question TheButtravage:"The concern at the moment seems to be how often he gets endurance artifacts"]

---> Are there recordings of him losing runs to bad rng?

In also, TheButtravage, in fact, what's the point that the artifact for your dropped so often? Look how many times I end up dying in the sarcophagus, because there I had a 0-2 first-aid kit.

---> and how he takes very little damage in Sarcophagus.

TheButtravage, what do you think about these 3 points here -

& Lots of aggression for me.

~12 bullets in face - no death. But as soon as I walked away a little damage immediately passed. [↑ The same applies to the mt76907. Perhaps I "deliberately changed" cfg files, the bots to become more complex and not die if at close range to shoot at them. Kappa)] This is mechanics of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

In short, TheButtravage, i have nothing to hide, i spent 9 hours of his free time to compile all the runs in the sarcophagus for you. Therefore, he can look:

North Carolina, USA

[quote]---> Regarding cfg files. all you want Since I know 100% that I have not changed anything in the files. I am confident in its purity. [/quote] Meaningless statement

[quote]with regard to autosplitter: Since on my vods and vods TheStalkerVal, Client: Synchronizing lasts ~1,5 -2 sec, while on TheButtravage vods: Client: Synchronizing lasts ~ 6-7 sec. It still does nothing. In addition, if during boot - time stops, you can just use it in Sarcophagus. ---> Saved - loaded - run 10 meters - saved - loaded. Thus it is possible to pass sarcophagus without a medkit. Since at boot time with you falls attention Monolith. And they are more besides in the first seconds loaded - reload a weapon. It will RETARD strats. [/quote]Not sure if this is a translation issue or what. Do you know what an Load Remover does?

Synchronization isn't counted in the auto-splitter (and the game doesn't consider it a loading state, you can move/regain stamina during the sync screen). Please ask if someone can translate your response.

[quote]---> unless he provides a run with views of config files before the run I have already written about it. [/quote] i have not seen this? link please?

[quote]---> This requires mic audio to prevent splicing. mt76907, probably you do not know that not everyone has a separate house with a separate room, how in the USA. [quote] We don't judge your living situation, trust me

There are many things you could edit, % for enemy to spawn with shotgun vs machine gun (this is the most obvious one since shotgun deals virtually no damage and I have seen PB of yours where literally every enemy in sarco has a shotgun). The focus is more on editing files in general more than one specific edit.

As far as ensuring legitimacy goes, If you're doing 6 hours of runs, show the file values and launch the game showing the path that has the files. I can make a video of this if it is confusing. This only has to be done at the beginning of your 6 hour stream or if your internet goes down.

I'm not watching hours of video, i'm going off of the stamina artifacts of your pbs, which is ridiculous given you only check 8 bodies. Go through the lengths to show legitimacy or not, up to you (and the mods here, if they consider it sufficient)

North Carolina, USA

Let me list the benefits of file editing good luck in order of preference; stamina artifacts, shotgun enemies in sarco, enemy accuracy, medkit drops.

For anyone reading, this would be editing a config file to increase your chances, it doesn't mean unfavorable things CAN'T happen, it means you are way more likely to get "Good Luck". Especially when you grind out runs.

For the record: as long as it's an even playing ground, I don't care. This game is very hard to check for legitmacy, for example, if the community decides to allow a tier 3 stamina artifact of the 1st body for everyone that's fine. Just looking for a level playing field here. But you still need legitimacy checks, I'll make a video demonstrating this later.

Russia

What prevented me "to hack the game files on medical kits / shotgun / accuracy" even while here on these results? & Splits at the end of NPP 11:46 & 11:48 (In my PB time - 11:51) I would have shown even better time. But not. Me in these runs just raped in Sarcophagus.

Okay, mt76907, and now look at another of my proof: Take my video - & video TheButtravage -

Watch the videos and see screenshot proving "who else more than i, changes cfg files"

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1455404484/ea6114a8/11462494.jpg

TOTAL: my video = 4 stalker exoskeleton-man with shotgun TheButtravage video = 7 stalker exoskeleton-man with shotgun

It yet unknown with what weapon was now this http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1455406118/79bb696b/11462635.png exoskeleton-man on video TheButtravage, who died of F1 grenades. If it is true. Then it turns out altogether 8 exoskeleton-man with shotgun on video TheButtravage?

And mind you video TheButtravage is 4 months was a world record.

North Carolina, USA

[quote]What prevented me "to hack the game files on medical kits / shotgun / accuracy" even while here on these results? [/quote]Who are you quoting?

On a serious note, I withdraw the accuracy accusation. Artifact rates are much easier to edit and increased rates have a much larger impact on the run, thus the focus should be on that.

I am not here to defend TheButtravage, if you have an accusation towards him, that's a conversation between the two of you.

[quote]Okay, mt76907, and now look at another of my proof: [/quote] One singular run of yours compared with one run from someone else is not "proof."

My artifact claims are based on a trend, not one singular run. It is a matter of prevalence, surely you understand the importance of aggregation in such a luck based game as this?

Rhode Island, USA

I personally don't think he cheated his artifact drops rate.