Honestly a video should always be required in my opinion. As you said, it's 2016. I agree.
tell me about it with Super Mario 64 DS 150 1st place is a decent 30 minute faster with no video.
Hmm. I just recently started speedrunning and I assumed that a video was required... seems pretty obvious to me :/.
It's like me saying I'm the world's strongest man and just having the title without having to lift anything...
[quote=Lance_]tell me about it with Super Mario 64 DS 150 1st place is a decent 30 minute faster with no video.[/quote]
Whoa. It's one thing to have a WR with no video, but to absolutely STOMP 2nd place without a shred of evidence (at least in the submission) should not be legal for speedrunning as a whole.
For that specific case, he has a video of his 80 Star run, which was done before his 150 Star one. He obviously had the opportunity to record, but for whatever circumstance, didn't. It'd be as if I started taking 1st for other C&C games without actually running them.
For runners with NO means of recording, take a picture of the game and some kind of clock (preferably atomic) before and after the run, it's not much, but if you commentate about the run afterwards it would be reasonable. For small games that'd usually be enough for 1st place, but don't expect games with 30+ runners to allow that.
I agree with the needed video, even if sometimes, decent records are impossible to get (bugged capture device, censured audio...).
Accidents are a major part of the speedrunning's life. Very unfortunate sometimes, but we have already accepted (I think, I suppose) the games might crash, and kill our PB paces in the process. It's sad when it happens, but our main quality is to overcome obstacles, even if they are painful.
Even if the run's dead because of no video proof, we still can grind to reproduce our performance. It's tough, chances can be very thin, but I assume that we are used to fight our own limits and retry over and over again.
However, I don't mind that much if someone beats an entire leaderboard with no video. But I'll probably have an argue with him/her if he's/she's complaining about another person who comes from nowhere, and steals his/her throne with proofless score. Fair enough, right ?
Like seriously,,, why isn't it required to have a video for places 1-5? As my teacher always said, "No work, no credit." I personally don't care if there are technically issues. IF you can't record then you can't record. However, I suppose it's up to the community, but I think it should be enforced.
Leaderboards have a check that states "video required for submissions" there is no excuse to not have this checked. I refuse to acknowledge anyone ahead of me in any game I run if they have no video. I've had this bullshit pulled on me by some Nico runner for mega man x3, and I won't do it now
[quote=Token]How do you quote by the way?[/quote]
This board is bugging out when I try to type it here... so here: http://pastebin.com/raw/5XyL5rT1
