All Instant Action Maps
6 years ago
Sweden

Is there any posibility to have a category for beating all maps in Instant Action like there is for the first game?

First game: http://www.speedrun.com/swbf#Instant_Action_All_Maps_No_DLC_Easy

Québec

Instant action speed running is pretty hard to verify and make rules that are good for everybody. There is a lot of different categories/rulesets possiblities. RotE makes senses because you play it from the beginning to the end, but instant action does not have any definitive end to it.

I also have not played around in instant action in a while so I'll have take a look on how some of these missions work again.

Lako3000 did propose some interesting ideas in the forums a little while ago. If we were to make a leaderboard for instant actions, we need to share to share our opinions/ideas and make the ruleset something that everyone can agree on. Check out the forum topic: "Misc Category Ideas" and see if some of these ideas sounds interesting to you.

I still need to think about it, but I think an example of a category could be "All Maps CTF%". Doing a map more than once is kind annoying because it is too repetitive so that is why I would personally prefer avoiding categories with CTF and assault mixed together (unless if you really really want to do a 100% type of run).

For anyone that would be interested in instant actions, please let us know here and share your opinion. :)

Canada

I'm glad someone suggested this. I was planning on doing an instant action run for the first game, but I don't have any way to record my Xbox. I haven't done any SWBF2 runs (the campaign and Galactic Conquest are a bit too much of a drag for me personally), but I would if this category existed. I think I would be interested in an "All Maps Conquest%", but I'm open to other possibilities as well.

Sweden

All maps conquest and all maps CTF would be interesting

Québec

Thanks for the feedback everyone :)

Here is some of the categories and ruleset I could create. Tell me if you are ok with it or if you want something to be different.

--- All Maps Conquest CW% and All Maps Conquest GCW% --- I think having a category for each era seperate would be a good idea. It avoids replaying the same map twice. The run become shorter and maybe this will make it more accessible to some people.

Plus each eras have some unique missions to them. CW = Genosis GCW = Hoth and Endor

--- All Maps Hunt% --- This should includes all eras this time since there is only 6 of them and none of them repeat a map.

--- All Maps CTF CW% and All Maps Conquest GCW% --- Same logic as mentionned for Conquest. 2-flag and 1-flag are combined of course.

--- All Maps Assault% --- All eras again since there is only 6 missions + the special map Mos Eisley. This is kind of weird to include Mos Eisley since this category is supposed a space mission focused one, but it is marked as a assault mission so would not make sense to remove it either.

--- General Ruleset Stuff --- In this section I want to talk about some general rules that will apply to all of these categories. There is a lot of configurations that can be changed in Instant Action so we will need determine settings we want everyone to use to do runs. A lot of stuff can change based on you guys feedback, but in general I think we should stick to the default settings.

--General-- AI unit per unit is at 16 per team by default. That is ok? More or less would be interesting?

--Hero-- This section is kind of important. By default it is set to 10 points and 90 seconds respawn time. It is possible to set to timer and always so that you will always be able to spawn with a jedi which is obviously a lot faster.

While the idea of playing through instant action with the jedis always on sounds really fun to me, I dont think it is the right thing to do because I am sure that some people would want to speed run instant action the "standard" way. Jedi% could be it own thing in that regard.

--Conquest-- Reinforcement set 100% (150points=100%), timer off

--CTF-- The default score needed is five to win. Do we keep that or do we put the score lower to get through missions faster? Timer off again, otherwise it is not a speed run :p

--Assault-- Default score is 180 just like in galactic conquest.

--Hunt-- Default score is 50.

-- Defeat -- Faillure to win a mission will not count as completing it. If you are defeat in a mission, you can press (Esc/Start) on the "Defeat" screen and then "Restart Mission". Don't wait too long or you will miss it.

-- XL problem -- XL missions does not exist in the consoles versions, not sure what we are going to do about it. It would only affect 100% run at the moment.

-- Load Time -- As any other run of this game on the leaderboard, removing loading time is going to be important so that it is fair play to everyone. Since you can not skip the victory screen in Instant Action, I think it would be ok to remove the loading from the apperance of the victory screen to the black screen at the beginning of mission. It would make it easier for people to time there runs if they feel like it.

If you there is any details I missed let me know. Share your thoughts and ideas.

ShikenNuggets likes this
Canada

Categories all sound good to me. Rules look good to, sticking to defaults makes things easier for everyone. Having Jedi on all the time could be fun, but I think it would make things too easy (especially for Conquest, since you would pretty much be able to take all the command posts immediately with virtually no resistance). For XL missions, it's probably easiest to just not require them in 100% runs, as the only other option I can think of would be to have separate categories for consoles and PC (which I think would be a bit overkill, especially considering there's only one console runner at the moment). I like the suggestion for loading times, that way we only have to worry about timing the levels themselves.

Edit: My mistake, there's more than one console runner, there's a couple PS2 runs in the Galactic Conquest sections that I didn't see.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Sweden

These options sound good to me too.

Québec

Instant actions categories are up on the leaderboards. Feel free to tell me if something is wrong or does not make senses.

Have fun speed running Star Wars Battlefront 2 !

Canada

Cool! Just finished recording a Hunt run. Once I have all the levels timed I'll submit it.

Sweden

Could we have a XL category for us PC player.

No offense to console players

Québec

Sure, I'll add it later tonight.