Cool thank you very much :)

I got hooked again to Homm2. Can you please add "The Magic Three".

Thanks and cheers

Nice Thx!

Hi

can you please add The Back Door as a new LB?

Thanks & Cheers

Cool Eino you are always a great help for me, really appriciate it. Alrighty then I will submit my runs soon and looking forward to do some more of them.

Hi,

thanks for the answer and already setting up a board. My Config is a A1200, but I always had some flickering in the Menu so I added some Z3-Fast MB to avoid that (if this is not okay I am fine with it.) I also activated the JIT Option. I did not read the suggestion in the full category before that, I just made this config for myself to have a good gaming experience. If we really should stick to a default A1200 its okay for myself and I will do that for future runs. So here is my "default" setup: CPU = 60020 JIt Option enabled (maybe not needed) Chipset = AGA (maybe not needed) RAM = 4MB Slow = 1MB (maybe not needed) Z3 = 2MB Emulator = WinUAE WHDLoad

I am of course open for suggestion and changes in the config so its fair for everyone. Here is one of my runs you can take a look at:

Cheers MilkToast

Hi fellow spice harvesters,

I started to run some missions on the Amiga and I am planning to do more in the future. I just wanted to ask where I should submit my runs, because the Leaderboard for IL- runs is lacking the option for the Amiga. Not sure if the game is the same as on DOS andit does not make any difference which version you play. I checked some DOS runs and the game looks slightly different. I am playing version 1.1_1548 (WHDLoad).

So can we add an Amiga LB or is there any reason this would not be neccessary?

Cheers MilkToast

Hi fellow Warlords,

in this thread you can request a new scenario you have a run to submit for. Just write which scenario you want to have added and I will adjust the LB.

Hi ho fellow trampers,

I just like to know how exactly you prove that you have 1 Mio $. The game itself does not have any congratulations msg or anything else, it just continues even if you have reached the 1 Mio goal. If you have more then 999.999$ in your account it just flips back to xxx.xxx$.

Cheers MilkToast

Hi,

I just wanted to know what happens to a run if it uses some bugs in the game to lower the current time by a couple of minutes. Would it be on the same Leaderboard or will the Leaderboard divided? Asking for a friend ;)

Cheers MilkToast

Hi all,

first thanks for all the great guides and tipps for running this game. Thumbs Up.

I am running Dune on the Amiga and I was trying to get the green strategy to work. I assume I did everything do achieve this but it does not work for me.

• I capture the Fortress near the Harkonnen Palace
• I build Windtraps
• Wait for 40 Units of Water and the start planting the trees
• Then I wait untilö the water tanks are empty and the plants grow to the palace If I then go to the Harkonnen Palace I always die.

So I wonder if this strategy is intended to work or is it just more like using a bug / glitch? So what am I missing here?

Btw I also cant get the Infinite Spice Bug to work on the Amiga, so I always have to keep an eye on my spiece productiopn for the greedy Emperor.

Cheers MilkToast

Alright got it thx.

Well I assume I have to submit my run into the No Mod Category then?

Thanks for taking part at the discussion.

So at the moment we have two different kind of runs

1. Both Doors open (Lab Door Mod)
2. Inner Lab Door closed (No Copy Protection?)

I think those both type of runs would be the most common and we should at least seperate the LB for those.

If I click on "submit run" there are three different options you can choose from:

1. Lab Door Mod 2 .No Modification

What is the differences between 2 and 3 ?

Btw: Stoic_Rose is currently practining the Atari ST Version, I try to find out what doors are open/closed in this version.

I would agree with Category I for the start as long as there not so many runs it would be not such a good idea to blow up the Leaderboard with to much new categories.

If I would be in charge I just would setup a DOS-Box/ScummVM, Amiga, C64 (Atari ST, Apple) Leaderboard with the two subcategories Any% and 100% for each one of them. This kind of setup is often used (check out Lemmings i.e.) (btw if you need help here you I can support you or just ask Non-Slim-Jim I am sure he would also be happy to help -> We are both mods for other games also)

Its true that having a basic setup for everyone to have a fair competion is needed, but also tricky to define, not sure yet how to approach that. I am not a big DOS-Box/ ScummVM user so there is not much experience I can share.

I am also not sure about the copy protection, it would be more difficult for new runners to get a version with copy protection (I assume most version avialable have it removed). On the Amiga I still have to do a 4-digit input even if its always the same symbol -> I dont see much difference if you have to look up the code or press the default code to open the door but I am not 100% sure how the copy protection of this game really works and how times consuming it is to find out the right code.

For the Amiga configuration I could hand you over my setup and then we recommend using that in the rules. My setup is pretty basic so I am sure everybody using an Amiga emulator can configure it.

It is a pretty tricky topic, but we should definitly extend the Leaderboards somehow, this game just deserves it :)

btw: For me personal (as long as I am the only Amiga runner) I dont care if everybody is on the same Leaderboard for the beginning as long as people can identify the difference on the Leaderboard (like The Secret of Monkey Island I am in last place, because the Amiga version is different and I am the only one running the Amiga version but people can esay identify why). So if setting up the Leaderborads is to diffcult, I can also live with that. My main goal here on src is to represent the Amiga community and not getting Records.

Hi

thanks for the reply Matt :) No I am using an Emulator for my runs (WinUAE its pretty common) I emulated an A1200 but if more runners will pop up for the Amiga version we just might have to agree on a basic setup so the loading times are the same (or use an autoremover like in LiveSplit for the Loading times).

About WHDLoad vs. Floppies: True both options are available but in my opinion there is no real reason to go with floppies (because of the loading times) and all other Amiga runners I am aware of are using WHDLoad versions of the games, so its very common. Maybe just set up a rule like "WHDLoad is recommended" something like that.

About setting up the categories: I will reply in the other thread.

Cheers

Hi ho all

So just for fun I was trying to run the Amiga Version and noticed some major differences to the other runs so here are my findings:

I am playing the WHDLoad Version of Maniac Mansion 1.6_1571. This is nothing special about this just to mention it.

I wanted to do a run with all the skips possible and all of them are working very well (thaks for the findings especially purple skip is great). The problem is the inner door lab is locked and I need the code from the Arcademachine to open it. The other door is also closed but the copy protection was removed. I am not aware of any default code to open the inner door like in the NES version (does anybody know something?). So in order to open the door I have to check the highscore in the machine using the quarter from the safe. It is not enough to just have the cutscene play and try out the different codes, according to my research it does only work after you chekced the highscore yourself (again I can be wrong). After repairing the wires it takes round about 4m until the cutscene plays (I checked the Deluxe Version it seems like there is not cutscene and you can go for the highscore immediatly?) So in this 4 minutes there is plenty of time to perform a lot of actions without losing any time. To not just stand there and wait for the cutscene I feed green tentacle to kill some time.

If you perform the green tentacle skip and get caught no other char can get to the top floors because the game still thinks there is somebody else up there and the other chars refuse to go up there. If I go back with the char who did perform the skip everything went to normal again. So I need to go at least two times on the upper floors and this only works if I dont get caught and take the longer route to go back down again. Does the game behave the same on DOS? Just get one char to the green tentacle and try to get another one up there, it should not work imho.

These are my main findings, I also did find some super small time saves, but they dont matter for the Runs submitted to this Leaderboard. I share them anyway because I also did not notice them in the Deluxe runs.

• Open Radio you receive the batteries immediatly and dont have to pick up the radio and then open it
• Use Batteries with Flashlight when it is still in the kitchen. Your char will put the batteries in and also picks up the flashlight in one move.

Okay that all I can think of right now.

I also decided to make the most useless char Jeff to my main hero,and perform most actions with him. Not sure if this is the best choice, but I liked it.

Of course I wanted to submit my run to the Leaderboard, what category would this run be? What should I select?

I am also working on the Meteor Police ending without any skips, but I guess this wont be faster then my current route. Lets see

You can check out my run here:

Thanks and Cheers MilkToast

Hi,

sure we can come up with new categories if you like to run them we can create them.

Tutorial: Nobody will miss it, but it can be added if desired. Completionist: This would be the Full Game run then Other difficulty settings: Would blow up the LB to much, but we can talk about some adjustments when selecting different difficulties Terminate all opponents: Its the same as 100% category for Warlords, so I think we can also add this No ruins/ temples: Should be added later, if there is still need for more categories.

So there seems to be some need for new categories so I wll create a few :)

Cheers

Welcome xatrixx,

of course we can change the rules for that, it is a valid point you bring up here. When I did create these Rules/Category I just didnt want to dicate everything from the start, its better to talk with other people about what is best. You can join our discord for further discussion / or use this forum of course.

If the difference is still that huge you can reject it, I thought I matched the speed sry about that. Well then I try to use FS-UAE then.

Hi,

thx for the answers. I was just unsure to submit a run which is kinda messy but still faster then the current WR just because of the loading times (without claryfing this). I will go with a similar setup like Arran in my future attempts to match the same loading times.

See you on the Leaderboard ;)