The fact that the former mods reacted to Pac's decision not with concern over the stability of the community but worrying about retaining their power over the community says everything about the necessity of this decision.

Anybody who isn't in your self-absorbed closed tribe of sycophants can see this behavior for what it is.This constant nepotism and hostility towards outsiders is why there's wide cross-community support against you, why the site admin stepped in and unmodded all of you, why control of the leaderboard has been ripped from your grasp and there's nothing you can do about it. I hope you enjoyed your power trip while it lasted.

"Sleepwalker is a good mod because he listens to the people and addresses their concerns"

"I'm not here to talk to you I only want to address the site admin directly"

wow its like your questions answer themselves

Why do 100% runs of any game when any% is faster?

Doom 2 is a game that no one plays? UV-Max is a category that no one plays?

This is why insular communities like this one get clowned so hard the second they're brought to the attention of the public. You spend so little time welcoming fresh faces and ideas the second anything a little challenging comes along you all start making passive aggressive threads like this and start talking about "the way it's always been" as if you somehow own RE:4 in its totality or that anybody outside your backwater community cares.

Imagine being upset that someone with actual critical thinking skills crashed your boys club and the whole speedrunning community saw it happen

Can someone please offer a condescending "good day" and close the thread without letting the discussion reach a resolution

thank you

السلام عليكم أخي! انا بحب الريزدنت إيفل كتير بس هدا مش مبولة وبدي قفه بسرة لو سمحتي.الف شكر و مع السلام!!!!!!!!!!

Do NOT re-add the run brother !!! Johnald McDonald is a KNOWN performance enhancing drug (PED) user and adding his run puts the legitimacy of the whole board at risk !!!!!

There should at least be a drug-tested/non tested category split IMO

I'm not sure if you people are being intentionally obtuse; John Numbers was just an illustration, I don't actually watch female streamers anyway so I don't know who's robbing who in the OoT scene.

Drug test kits can be had for under $10 USD so I'm not sure that argument holds up at all.

I'd like you all for just a moment to consider how, say, Narcissa Wright, former world record holder of the well played and liked, even by the general public, game "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time", found out the man, John Numbers, who beat her record, was using concentration improving stimulants to do so, even if perhaps illegally?

I don't know about you, but I would feel extremely frustrated that a game I spent thousands of hours of my life learning to play bore fruit, only to be stolen by some crackhead. I would not want my reputation as a speedrunner, my importance to the community, and my status as an expert on the game to be damaged by someone who brazenly does not respect the legitimacy of the sport.

I would be devastated, my declining popularity after so many thousands of hours spent would become very painful; I wouldn't want this to happen to anyone in our community when there is already so much reason for various people to be denied their deserved recognition (such as claiming emulators don't count to claim the Mega Man X2 world record).

This post is in no way meant as an attack on the honorable reputation of John Numbers.

I don't see what version differences matter when anyone playing any version of any game can be cheated out of a WR by a dope user

I understand speedrunning is so small at the moment the idea seems ridiculous. However, online entertainment is exploding, and justin.tv, esports, etc. were all very, ¤very¤ small years before. Remember when UFC was two fat white guys with headbands kicking each other in a garage? Now it dwarfs boxing.

I say this because it is not even necessary that this policy be employed at all levels, HOWEVER, in a few years it will greatly, GREATLY benefit us to have such mechanisms in place, and so in this way I would compare employing these policies to "beta testing", to improve the stability of the community for years to come.

Let us not forget the complete lack of drug testing in even the most "high"-profile of speedgames

A few years ago, in small competitions among friends in various racing games I had used amphetamines in the form of adderall to improve focus, reaction time, and decrease fatigue to secure higher leaderboard positions, so I think I know a bit about what I am saying here.

It is true that virtually all speedrunners are likely innocent of this, HOWEVER, we are witnessing an explosive growth in popularity that has steadily risen alongside esports thanks to the rise in popularity of video game streaming, along with events such as AGDQ, ESA and soon NASA. When the money gets good enough for more people to stream runs consistently, or to have the chance to win thousands, if not millions (as in the case of esports) of dollars, you can GUARANTEE there will be cheating scandals.

We should build the appropriate protocols while the community is still small and such things do not cause major headaches in the years to come. It is our community and therefore our responsibility to ensure things work as intended.

I think it's silly that in every other sport there's testing for performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) and yet in speedrunning a person can very well earn WR after WR with the help of amphetamines or beta blockers or what have you without anyone being any the wiser.

Now I understand that most leaderboards would not benefit from drug testing. In fact, if it was a requirement I'm sure speedrunning would just collapse, since it would take a tremendously higher investment to even compete in games that only have 4-5 serious competitors, which seems to me like the majority of speedrunning.

HOWEVER, for high-profile, highly competitive games, where world record holder DO make substantial amounts of money off of their records, I think it's absolutely imperative to find out without a shadow of a doubt that the rest of the community isn't being cheated. We already know there are plenty of cheats to perform in-game, but nobody brings up the physical cheating that can also arise in competitions.

My idea then is to draft a formal proposal to have guidelines for submitting drug testing kits, based on the popularity of the game, the competitiveness of the world record (if, say, several people are likely to attain the WR) and so on. Thoughts are appreciated.