As you noted, it's segmented, not a true RTA.

So, wanted to real quick explain in case somebody wanted to know why my submissions got in late. The day submissions closed, I had a flight back from Japan. I probably should have submitted before that, but I didn't want to type them on my laptop, as well as on a worse internet connection than I have at home. I was going to get in with plenty of time to write and upload them. On the flight itself, I got sick, and it ended up being easily the most miserable flight I've ever been on. When I got back, the priority was getting to a doctor since it's flu season and I wanted to make sure I had meds. After that, I passed out due to a combination of still feeling absolutely terrible and jetlag. I checked the submissions thread the next day, and the OP wasn't updated to say closed, so I typed up something quick and submitted. If it's not going to be considered, that's fine, since they were most definitely after the deadline - however, I figured that if the thread wasn't updated, it wouldn't hurt to throw them out there. Thanks.

It's the European Box Art. I'd like to standardize the box art across the series to first US release, or, in the case of SMT1, the original Japanese release. It's part of creating a uniform look for the series here, which will make the series look better here as a whole.

I sent you a PM on Twitch, but as a series mod, do you mind if I change the box art to match the US release, like the other games in the series? Everything else here is great, just a small change I want to make for consistency.

Thanks, Ghoul02

I sent this in a PM to tetsuya, but I wanted to get this all in the open. I want to keep the leaderboards looking more consistent. There are more details below, but here is the TLDR on how I think the leaderboards can look a lot better.

Box art should be the first NA release box art unless it never came out here. This is just to keep a consistent look.

No background images or changes to the general look of speedrun.com. These are usually ugly and take forever to load. Black is fine, we like a dark series.

Categories should be complete. Any% is usually not a category for SMT - ending and difficulty should be preferred over vague terms.

Any category without a run should be marked as misc if not outright deleted. This is to direct attention to the runs that actually exist, rather than having an empty leaderboard.

If there are any people that have opinions that are different than these, let me know. Here's the full text:

Shin Megami Tensei - Change the Box art to the SNES JP original (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/0/05/Smt1snescover.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140426025439 …). It's the version used for the only run on the leaderboards. Make "theoretical categories" (Neutral ending, Law Ending) as misc categories until a run is submitted.

Nocturne's box art is fine. Change the category to be correct. Romscouts run is True Demon Ending iirc. The version is the Maniax Chronicle Edition, which should be noted on the page somewhere.

DDS is fine for the most part, although I'm not crazy about using the European box art. Usually it's either the original japanese or the first western release (http://s.emuparadise.org/fup/up/150802-Shin_Megami_Tensei_-_Digital_Devil_Saga_(USA)-1.jpg …) - DDS was released in Europe by Ghostlight so it was probably a fair bit later than the US release. I'd prefer to see it standardized across all (First US release art, JP art if no US release happened), but message Jay if he's okay with it first.

Remove the background from P3FES. That page is a cluster¤¤¤¤ since we don't have any runs to fill at all, but any% isn't even enough information for what we're supposed to have. I'd rather delete the whole page and wait for a run to actually happen and recreate it. I guess tack on either a hard or normal difficulty to The Journey or something so that it's an actually existing category. Remove the two mods for the game, since they don't run it anyway and are basically squatting on something they don't need access to.

Change Persona 4's picture to the NA Box art here … I'm not as opposed to the background here because it's at least clean, but I'd still prefer it removed to keep the series looking consistent across everything. I'd drop the coloring for the top bar at least. Remove Any% since it's not a category without a difficulty. If somebody wants to run it, they can submit it when they finish. True Ending should be changed to True Ending, Hard Mode. Championbeef did NG+ Normal True End runs as seen here: twitch.tv/championbeef … Should be the second category on the leaderboards and it should default to Hard Mode True Ending.

Persona 4 Arena is okay I guess. I wish I kept the IGT's of the other runs but I dropped it when I beat them. Token's run wasn't done on Arcade, so that should be changed to PS3 iirc.

SMT4's box art is kinda in a crappy place. First US release was the version with the book, so the box art is huge. Probably cleaner to just use the JP release here. If you can find a good version of the US art, that'd be much better. … Make ALL of the categories without runs misc or delete them. Delete All Endings from Misc categories or at the very least, remove xdxd from it.

Persona Q is like FES. It shouldn't have been made. However, in the meantime, change the box art to match the US release art. https://gbatemp.net/attachments/pq_cover-jpg.8326/ … Also, might as well change the categories to add a difficulty and split into P3 side and P4 side.

Lastly, we should add P3P. Only category with a run right now is Mulsqi's 10:02 here: … which is True Ending Normal. Note as another field that it was done on a Vita TV, and that it uses the male route. Box art should be something like …

I've probably missed more than a few games with valuable runs, but this'll keep the section looking more consistent and a lot better. I'm going to mirror this to the forums on SR dot Com in case somebody wants to chime in on anything I've said.

Sorry, I don't usually check the forums.

There's a specific point at which the game must be on Easy difficulty to get a drop, which is what is meant by "in order to progress". However, all other fights must be on Normal difficulty or higher for it to be valid.

Sorry, literally just started checking forums for games I run.

Passwords are banned in the current most popular category because they allow you to make a Level 1 Yokai the same level that an end game Yo-kai is. It takes most of the fun and challenge out of the game by allowing you to just steamroll the entire game.

If anybody ever checks this and wonders why the other restrictions are there: QR Codes are similar in that they allow you to get an abundance of tokens, meaning there would be an early reset point where you run to the crank-a-kai and try to get an S Rank Yo-kai like Damona or something and reset if it doesn't happen.

Saving and Quitting is not allowed for two reasons - they allow you to use the Yo-kai Cam exploit for infinite Holy Exporbs and it screws up the in game time.

Japanese runs are usually not archived directly, and even if they are, they're probably not the best resource, especially without a JP copy of the game (exclusive version glitches and what not). I'd recommend using Pitted's run as a resource for 12 Hour Challenge shenanegans.

If for whatever reason, you have a JP copy of the game, I have the first 3/4's of a Japanese run archived on Youtube by the WR holder and the JP Glitched any% notes, but I haven't fully translated them.