Hi,

I noticed that in Denhonator's run, the timer runs pretty slow during travelling or waiting, and stops when you eat from pots, initiate a conversation and so on (I suppose the game loads there). This is all probably due to the load removal script. Seems like the pointer address is incorrect.

You can use the same timing method as in vq3.

How exactly can you make a full-game speedrun of this game? I remember spending weeks just waiting for the timer go end (usually 5 years)

Well, you have more difficult AI. The main reason why I created both categories was that it is different on PC (random track conditions), so I thought it's the same deal on PS.

What? Is that any different from single-player? Can't think of anything.

I wonder what would Left 4 Dead community say about this thread :)

If he would cheat properly, he would have never even raised a suspicion :P

"During a private conversation (as confirmed by screenshots), PLANET admitted to having used a map editor to remove the second rat from the cave (the rat that is hidden behind the wall at the 90° turn in the cave)"

Seems like evidence to me, although it would be nice to see those screenshots.

How exactly do you want to provide evidence for such thing as RNG manipulation if he never streamed his attempts? Sure his run might have been the perfect RNG run, but since there is a lot of suspicion, it might not be legit.

Modding a game and not showing other outcomes of RNG makes such runs virtually impossible to verify against cheating.

Damn, seems like PLANET is too much of a perfectionist (he told me he did thousands of attempts) and it seems like he reached his patience tolerance, so in order to get the perfect run, he decided to cheat and thought poeple wouldn't notice. Too bad he didn't do a segmented run instead. That's what the category is for, anyway... oh wait, no more :)

I don't think that's necessary, we just need to see the IGT after each track.

1. Well, if you guys wanna do it like that, I'm okay with it.
2. Yeah, it would just be a bit more difficult.

1. Does the game display IGT for all races combined like in Test Drive 5? I don't even see IGT for each track since you skip it, so I don't see how we could do that.
2. I think we discussed that somewhere, but don't remember if we agreed on it. I personally am fine with it and I'm pretty sure we can only restrict this to emulator runs. On the other hand, if someones slows down the game in emulator and records it, there are ways to make the video run on normal speed, so it's hard to say if it would prevent cheating.

There isn't one.

Can't speak for this community, but Alt+F4 tricks are widely accepted among other speedrunning communities.

You can use any difficulty you want. Extreme has its own category.

You cannot use macros or scripts in speedruns.

@KP0P5 - Sounds like a framerate difference regarding those jumps.

Hi, you can definitely get some answers on our discord channel:

https://discord.gg/011hZixyZfK5g61NL

Sure, just tell me which cups or categories can use NG+ subcategory.